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2_perseph ([personal profile] 2_perseph) wrote2009-12-30 05:47 am
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Coming Clean: 2009 & The End of Dumb Things

General Disclaimers: 1) It needs to be said that this does not apply to all fandoms, nor across the board to the ones it does apply. 2) This is how I experienced fandom on LiveJournal, where as far as I can tell, fandom has made its home.

PREMISE OF ARGUMENT

Once upon a time, there was a movement called “Bohemian.” This movement was made up of artists, musicians, and writers. It was during the nineteenth century, and their reason for being was to create works that were against the grain of mainstream culture, satirize established conventions of the time, and in effect flaunt the idea of things held sacred. They had a mode of dress, a style of conduct and lived “bohemian” lifestyles. Their supreme aim was nothing less than entertainment.

Fast forward to the twentieth century. Specifically, the second half. Change the mediums (but not much), and the origination of material, and give it a different name, and you have something called Fandom.

Fandom was a subcultural mental space created initially by artists and writers, and then vidders, for the reason of creating works that were against the grain of mainstream culture, to satirize, criticize, and flaunt conventions and things held sacred. We’ll get to the why at the end, though of course we all know why.

It was a place without windows or doors to the outside world, as the creations, like certain seeds needed a dark, warm space to grow. The nature of fandom, its ultimate goal was nothing more and nothing less than entertainment.

Fast forward a little bit more, and a funny thing happened.

“Fangirls” arrived in fandom.

These new arrivals were loud, brash, self-serving, spoke in high-pitched, nonsensical patterns, were a combination of the above, or all of the above. They seemed more interested in drawing attention to themselves than about contributing to the commons that was fandom.

The rest of fandom, slightly shell-shocked, gave them distance. (Back then, “fangirl” was a wholly dirty word. But many female fen did not mind being referred to as fangirls--myself included--and only felt that the word, like so many in relation to anything female, needed reclaiming.)

But it only got worse. It didn’t happen overnight, but eventually those fangirls got comfortable enough with their newfound world that they decided to fling open the doors and windows to the outside world. Because, since it was all about them anyway, they needed the outside world to care what they were interested in.

That’s the background.

As said, people who’d already been in fandom for a while, some from the start of internet fandom, gave them room. There seemed enough space after all in the kingdom for all comers.

But this new attitude in fandom was heralding the coming of something big: a fundamental change in the nature of fandom.

So the question becomes: If something changes fundamentally, can it still be called that thing?

What is raging through the internet today, can we call it fandom? Or should we differentiate and call it something else in order to ensure the survival of the thing that is fandom?

To define and restate my premise: Fandom is a space created outside of mainstream culture and existing exclusively for the creation of derivative works of art or fiction. It is, and has to be by nature subcultural and nonexclusive.

And the argument I’m making is that fandom is on life support, undergoing a transition that could fundamentally change, and kill it. Here’s why.

PROBLEM #1: MAINSTREAMVITIS: FANGIRLS & THE CREATORS OF ORIGINATING WORKS

If you’re actually in a special creator/fangirl relationship with any creator (whether of a show, movie or book), and have actually had that creator publicly announce and acknowledge you as a muse/collaborator or other form of inspiration, then great, good for you and your fandom. Have fun mainstreaming it.

Barring that, I am here to tell you that creators, no matter what it might seem like in interviews, public appearances, or in print, do not, in fact, have fangirls on their minds when they go about their busy days creating.

They just don’t.

If, as an example, they run a television show, here are the things they actually have to worry about: studio executives’ notes, network executives’ notes, advertisers’ notes, extracting decent pages from their writers, where and how to take suggestions from the actors into consideration, how to make it all fit together. All in a five-day turnaround period, usually.

If a showrunner gives you the implicit, or explicit impression that they also take into account what the “fans on the internet” are saying, or needing, that showrunner is pulling your leg. Trust me on this one. They know exactly what to say publicity-wise to keep you feeling “part of the process.” We are not part of the process.

The question now becomes: Why are we attempting to engage? Should we be part of the process?

The answer, I’m afraid, is no, we should not.

And we should not for two reasons: 1) it’s out of a selfish need: the need that fandom has developed to be recognized and loved by the creators of their obsessions. a.k.a official approval. 2) It is anathema to fannish creativity, and antithetical to the idea of a subcultural space.

I cannot think of a clearer example than mainstreamvitis of how to kill what fandom is.

A tangential, but no less destructive facet of this is confusing celebrity-worship with the nature of fandom.

Again, fandom is space to for the creation of creative works. Where does celebrity worship fit into that? For some, it actually does. Right at entry level. It takes the worship, lust or adoration of a celebrity or actor to generate interest in reading fiction about them or they characters they play.

But where it gets confusing is when the worship of that actor supersedes all else in that fandom. Everything created becomes subservient to the dynamics of that actor-worship, and lack of interest in that real-person actor forces the remainder of the fandom into a kind of state of siege.

The idea of not needing to fangirl the actor playing your favorite character in order to write that pairing just plain blasphemy; the notion of a show’s creator NOT GETTING the fact that you WANT to see your pairing made canon already--because gay is totally socially okay now--outright intolerable.

One aspect of fandom, meant to lubricate the mind, become the focus.

It’s like living in the fantasy of a rabid, spoiled child.

PROBLEM #2: A NEW REQUISITE FOR FANDOM PARTICIPATION: TOTAL AND ABSOLUTE OBSEQUIENCE

A lot of very good writers and artists have left fandom.

This may have to do with real life issues, but on the whole I think we can all tell a story as to why some BNF we knew back in the day has left fandom.

Participating in fandom today requires a total ban on so much as a whisper of anything negative about a movie, book or TV show, about any actor involved in a popular pairing, and sometimes even about a show’s creator (unless the “fandom” is in a wank with them), or there will be hell to pay.

A mature criticism of anything we love because we love it, is vile and repugnant, and causes a chill in the air. A while back, being accused of harshing a fandom buzz was a chuckle-worthy event. Now it’s practically a capital offense. If you do not LOVE IT COMPLETELY, THEN WHY ARE YOU IN THIS FANDOM??

Once upon a time, you could post about how Sam and Dean don’t actually qualify as real characters, but that you could still totally see them fucking. You could say what was wrong with Robert Downey Jr’s shlock performance as Holmes, and still gladly offer up your hundred dollar 12“ Obi Wan doll to see him fuck Jude Law’s Watson, preferably after a rather lengthy bout of lethargy. You could point out all the stupid things about the Trek reboot, and still dream up ways for Kirk to corner and shag McCoy. And why not?

The Boondock Saints movies, for example, are.. I mean, I don’t even know what the word would be: awful, I guess. But I still write Boondock Saints slash. The movie gave me characters, chemistry, and premises I absolutely loved, and the rest I’ll find in fandom. All we need in fandom is a glance at the right moment anyway. You add a world, an opportunity, and by god you have an OTP.

I’m not saying to write rants about how a fandom is deluding itself because the book, TV show or movie is atrocious, or that the story doesn’t work that way. I’m saying I think it’s nuts to demand total obsequiousness. Fascism requires demands obsequiousness.

What I’m saying is that it’s fine that some of our most beloved originating material is mostly crap (that’s what gets some of the best writers motivated--how to fill in those missing things). If you want to porn it, you should be able to do so without having to pretend it’s the come of Christ. How can a girl enjoy attending your lovely tea party if you think your dolls are real?

This is not to say a fandom isn’t true unless you’ve got people coming in and trashing things right and left. Quite the opposite. It’s to say a fandom isn’t true when you force people to line up at the tables and take a swig of the Kool-Aid or get the fuck out.

It shouldn’t be about maintaining a pretty facade.

No genuine critiquing means no genuine love. Just a lot of track marks on your arm.


IN CONCLUSION: WHY IT MATTERS

I hear it so often: the crazies are making the rest of us look bad.

Well, it’s not that the crazies are making the rest of us look bad, it’s that the crazies are fandom now.

The internet is changing the concept of what fandom is, and it brings me back to my original question: If something changes fundamentally, can it still be called that thing?

I say it can’t.

I am perfectly aware of the ”everything can be out in the open,“ and ”I’m important for just being me,“ and ”criticism is mean and unpatriotic,“ trends in our current culture.

But it cannot be held to the whims of a trend is because 1) fandom is a subcultural event. We are the modern-day Bohemians. Whether it’s slash, gen, or het, we are the subverters of mainstream culture. We manipulate, and care little care for established conventions. And we do it all for licentious enjoyment.

This is true whether you like it or not. It’s why no one has or ever will be able to corporatize and re-sell fandom back to us.

And 2) fandom exists to fill a need. We all know what that need was that brought each of us searching. And we were immensely grateful when we found it. It was a space that was independent and separate from the outside world, a sometimes dangerous place, not for the faint of heart, and a sometimes comforting place, and everything in between. And it was real. We needed it to be.

I’m saying that for it to continue to be that thing, it has to maintain structural integrity.

This isn’t about anything as a naive as a call for ”harmony“ in fandom. (I enjoy reading the wanks too much for that.) Neither is it about whether fandom is choked with crap: no one can prevent works of crap from being created, and what right should anyone have to do so? Nor is it about simple whining.

It’s about defining boundaries.

It might seem naive to say it, but fandom really is first and last about creative works. Whether of the poorest or of the best kind. It basically is about being a type of nerd-- a single-minded person who doesn’t care about anything except thoroughly and continually enjoying the characters, story lines, and possibilities of a fictional (whether RPF) world.

This is who you are when you are in fandom. You are a raging NERD.

If this is not what you thought you were signing up for, you signed up for the wrong thing.

If what you have is a burning desire to be recognized by a show’s creator, a book’s author, TV actors, maybe to see your most beloved fic story line written into canon, you need to try something other than fandom (otherwise, you’ll always be wondering why you’re constantly being wanked every time you open your mouth).

If it’s celebrities you signed up for, try ONTD. (The place actually exists, so why not use it?)

This is the end of the decade in which fandom exploded on the internet. I have no doubt that it will continue to grow. But I don’t believe that it will get any cleaner from here on out. Issues will just get messier, and lines will get more blurred.

What I am simply and humbly proposing is that we become aware of this and do something about it.

Halt the trend, re-establish the boundaries, and stick to them. Otherwise we’ll really soon no longer have the prerogative to complain about “the crazies.”

I came into online fandom in what will be exactly six years on Jan. 1st. I got dragged in, limp and unable to form a thought, because of a single look David Wenham cast Sean Bean in the Two Towers Extended. I felt as though I had just seen a sunset for the first time in my life.

Fandom, of recent, has made me feel unpretty. It has burned out some of the best and most creative fen on this endless tug-of-war of “where we belong.” Why stay, when being in fandom was becoming more and more like negotiating a minefield? For some it was a tough decision, for others it was just time to call it quits while they could still recognize the landscape.

I, however, am staying. I just can’t drink the Kool-Aid. I heard it’s laced with cyanide and will kill you if you touch it.

Well there you have it. My argument for boundaries so that we can keep this thing alive. You know, for our children’s children.

Happy New Year, fellow pervs. And may we continue to find hotness and porn in the unlikeliest of places. *g* It’s gonna be a good year.

EDIT: What I hope this essay offers is a clear articulation of what fandom is, so that when the behavior of a person or a group of persons crosses the boundaries, we can say: What you are doing is NOT fandom, and is BAD for fandom, and here's WHY. I think that the more we have a philosophy, the better our chances of surviving intact.

EDIT 2:
- This essay is not about telling you how you should experience fandom.

- It's about pointing out the difference between fandom...and something else.

- For the purpose of trying to rescue fandom from a quagmire.

- So that it continues to survive as something we recognize.

[identity profile] iainjcoleman.livejournal.com 2010-01-03 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
While you have some valid points about the state of some current fandom, your definition of fandom is far too narrow and your historical perspective is very narrow. You make fanfic central to the definition of fandom (it isn't) and you imagine that pathological relationships betweens fans and creators are a recent phenomenon (they aren't).

Others have talked about the beginnings of SF fandom in general, and of Star Trek fandom in particular. I'll talk about my first fandom, before I even knew the word: Doctor Who.

Who fandom was never about the fanfic. It centred around preservation, archiving and systematising. Fans would gather, study, memorise and disseminate the story details and production details of hundreds of long-lost episodes, developing a shared ontology of the series from its very beginnings to the present. They would share audio recordings and telesnaps of old episodes, and hunt for lost recordings of deleted episodes. All this was before the VCR, when even televised repeats were a rarity. Doctor Who fans knew that their show had a long history, and fandom was the only way to experience it.

The fanzine culture here had nothing to do with writing stories, erotic or otherwise, and everything to do with discussion and criticism of the TV show itself. It was greatly influenced by punk rock and football fanzines (and there are some fandoms you really need to consider further). Whole Who-specific critical methods and theories were established.

The pathology came in when this critical, irreverent lens was focused on the show that was currently being broadcast. It could never be as good as the unseen, mythologised version of the older stories that existed in the minds of fans. Also, in the 1980s Doctor Who producer John Nathan-Turner turned to fans as part of his efforts to publicise the show. As he engaged with fans, all the pathologies you mention in your post were made manifest. Some truly vile things were committed to print - seriously, worse than anything you're likely to have seen in your six years of fandom. What was worse, though, was that for a few years in the mid-eighties the show itself tried to pander to fans. Not in the sense of canonising particular relationships - Who fandom wasn't about that - but in terms of validating the fan scholarship by indulging in ever more obscure continuity in place of exciting stories.

The show pulled out of this in the late eighties, with a new writing team and Nathan-Turner disengaging somewhat from fandom, much to the improvement of the show. Then, the show was cancelled.

And in the nineties, Who fandom could be a vicious, spiteful, rancorous place, a maelstrom of endless feuds and ideological battles.

The influx of new fans with the revival of Doctor Who has made the fandom much more pleasant, more joyous, and frankly more sane. The relationship fans perceive themselves as having with the show's creators is much more realistic, and the fan appreciation of the current show is much more positive.

So the dynamic is, if anything, the opposite of the one you outline. But there's another part to the story. You see, both the outgoing and incoming showrunners were fans back in the 80s and 90s, and their attitudes towards the fan community is hugely informed by the tribulations of Who fandom during that time. I'd go so far as to say it is impossible to fully understand how showrunners in Doctor Who and Torchwood relate to fans without knowledge of the dark days of Who fandom. All that stuff Russell T Davies says about not caring what fans think, or Steven Moffat's insistence that he won't write the show for fans? That's not them being arseholes: that's an attitude born of seeing the results of doing otherwise.

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[personal profile] lindseykuper 2010-01-04 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Unsolicited editorial nitpick: I think you may have written "flaunt" a couple of times when you meant to say flout.

convergence is good?

[identity profile] reading-is-in.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I come to this via metafandom, having just read Henry Jenkins' 'Convergence Cultures' - in part a manifesto for fan power/affect over source text and why it mattered. Somewhat buoyed up by Henry's persuasive and optimistic closing rhetoric, this discussion has been a major point of hmmm for me.

I think there are basically two issues here. One: the nature of the internet changing the space of fandom itself by opening its doors to people whom fans as Jenkins, Hills et al describe them (creative, critical, smart, funny, politically aware, active) don't necessarily want in their space. To be impolite: the crazies. I've recently become involved with Supernatural fandom - as a fan in the sense that I love it, but I think there's a lot wrong with it and I want to critique it and talk and think about it a lot - and thanks to the internet I think I now declare myself un-shockable. (Or I was until I read earlier in this thread "Some of them are going to be crazy and idiotic and think it's TOTALLY COOL to show Jensen Ackles their Wincest porn". Please someone tell me this didn't happen. I think I have to go and have a tiny nervous breakdown and come back. Okay. Back). Call me naive, but isn't all that's required for internet communities to sort of self-define their own rules - e.g. this is a forum for fanfiction, concrit, discussion, not for insults, flaming each other, or stalker photographs? And, well, if any stalkers want to go set up their own forum and call themselves fans - it's sort of a matter for the police, rather than fandom?

Second issue - more complex. 2_perseph, you seem to be saying that we ought not attempt to make our fannish narratives canon because a) it won't work and b) that is changing the nature of fandom, which by definition ought to be subcultural and resistant. Addressing b) first - surely the point of subcultural resistance is to change the dominant culture? I mean, if I create a fic in which a woman or person or culture is treated differently, say with more respect, than in canon, it's not just because I wanted to write that fic as a bit of fun for me and my readers, though that might well be part of it, but because I would like it if mainstream culture presented women and people of colour differently than it often does. I know fanfic is about pleasure. Of course it is. But as a mixed-race young woman with a disability, the things that give me pleasure are sort of oppositional whether I want them to be or not (and believe me, sometimes I wish they weren't. It would be much easier for me if I got all my pleasure from heterosexual narratives about able white people living happily ever after). So what I'm trying to say is - I think I would like it if we did attempt for our work to influence.
But can it, without becoming warped? Is it always going to be the compromise of the politician who joins a party further right than he/she really is for the sake of having a voice?
And as we do achieve change - say, the increasing portrayal of homosexuality as one kind of good and normal rather than deviant and naughty - where does that leave us as creative, crituiqing, (word?) resistant fandom? Well, frankly we have so far to go in terms of the presentation of minorities that I'm not too worried about that yet. I read an article by Catherine Tosenberger which posited that eventually the only way left to radicalize Supernatural will be to give it a happy ending. As much as I like and admire both Tosenberger and the show in question, I'm afraid that's rather over-optimistic. I think a lot remains to be done with it - and with mainstream culture in general - but the new question this has raised for me is, as fan influence becomes mainstream and incorporated into the canon, is it fandom any longer?

Part one, because I'm long-winded

[identity profile] parsimonia.livejournal.com 2010-01-07 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
“Fangirls” arrived in fandom.

These new arrivals were loud, brash, self-serving, spoke in high-pitched, nonsensical patterns, were a combination of the above, or all of the above. They seemed more interested in drawing attention to themselves than about contributing to the commons that was fandom.


...the fuck?

Because, since it was all about them anyway, they needed the outside world to care what they were interested in.

Truthfully, I don't think that's at all something that can be exclusively attributed to who you perceive to be the "brash fangirls", disturbing some mythical equilibrium.

Fandom is a space created outside of mainstream culture and existing exclusively for the creation of derivative works of art or fiction. It is, and has to be by nature subcultural and nonexclusive.

I disagree with this entirely. My introduction to fandom wasn't about derivative works at all. It was about just being enthusiastic about books and TV shows and characters and stories. I would discuss and theorize, analyze and nitpick. For some people in fandom, that's enough for them. Some fans merely consume the derivative works of other fans.

Of course creativity and derivative works can be a big part of fandom, but they are not by any means the end-all and be-all of it. I think it's far more accurate to say that only a small portion entered into fandom knowing right away with the idea of creating derivative/transformative works. A great deal more people came across other fanworks and thought, "hey, that looks like fun, I'm going to try it!" (I also feel it should be noted that creating fanfiction and fanart isn't unique to fandom-as-a-community, either. Kids in kindergarten make up stories about Harry Potter and Batman and Dora the Explorer. Technically they're creating derivative fanworks, but very few would call them that.)

And the only reason it's a subculture is because only a small percentage of people are going to be so enthusiastic and devoted to their particular medium/show/film/books/band/celebrity/franchise to the point where they have such a strong desire to seek out others who share their level of enthusiasm.

Fandom didn't change because of fangirls. If anything, it changed because of the Internet, which made fandom far more accessible and easier to locate, lurk and participate in than ever before. The Beatles changed fandom in the 60s, because so many people went nuts for them and their music. Harry Potter changed fandom, because so damn many young people had such high levels of enthusiasm for it and they had the Internet.

Nothing that's as amazing as something like fandom can ever stay a subculture or stay completely under wraps and unknown forever. If anything, it's the tools of the trade, like fanfiction (fanfiction being the "tool" and fandom being the "trade") that are gaining mainstream attention and acknowledgement. That doesn't mean that every fucking fandom is going to have its vulnerable underbelly exposed for all the world to see.
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[personal profile] afra_schatz 2010-01-10 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Laaate to the party, but hey I'm here, aren't I :)?

I very much agree with, like, everything you said which would make this an enormously boring comment if I hadn't stuff to add (very surprising, I know).

Regarding Problem I: I think you're very right when you said here - as you've stated before - that the very nature of being a fan has something underground'ish to it and that no, we shouldn't be directly be involved in the makings of our shows/movies. But I also think that it's partly the fault of some shows that some people tend to think that way - that infamous SPN episode for example. While it would have worked nicely as a fanfic itself (the ageold idea of omg, FP characters reading fanfic on the internet), it not only made a large part of fandom feel like they really had a huge influence on the show. There's more, and I suppose that's what annoyed me most about it; it was the show and their creators staking a claim on OUR territory (as ridiculous as this might sound, our territory being borrowed worlds ;)). By commenting on fanfic and fandom and trying to be witty and whatever about it, they basically said "this is all crazy" - and that's really even worse than those creators like Rice who want to forbid fandom altogether. It's not funny or creative in my eyes, it's just petty in a BNF sort of way. Just like we, as fans, should acknowlege that we cannot influence the show (proven so beautifully by Joss and his constant jossing of canon), I think that the show/movie should keep its nose out of fandom. - Well, other than Joss's statement after the end of Buffy to tell us to go and write fic of course :).

[identity profile] stewardess.livejournal.com 2010-01-10 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Assuming you are not meta-ed out, you might want to check out the post of a friend,

http://thelastgoodname.livejournal.com/264686.html

quote: However, one of the explicit purposes of the OTW is "to work toward a future in which all fannish works are recognized as legal and transformative, and accepted as legitimate creative activity." [...] What if a person didn't want a future in which fannish activities were recognized as legal? What if said person liked doing things that are morally and legally dubious--what if that were part of the draw? What if the illegitimacy of the act were part of why a person participated?

And a post at OTW along with discussion:

http://transformativeworks.org/fan-fiction-added-merriam-webster

"'Fan fiction' added to Merriam-Webster"

[identity profile] arlad.livejournal.com 2010-01-23 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
This is an extraordinary, articulate essay and, god. YES. YES. YES. Is it alright if I link to this from my lj?

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